**Goblet of Fire** Discussion, Worries, News, Anticipation, etc.

[Peregrinning Took]

I don't think we have a GoF thread yet. Any movie news, post it here.

Rumours have been circulating that it's going to be released on November 18, 2005.

WarnerBros wants this to be about the same length as the others (!@#$!!!!). I'm quite worried about that, because the book is about twice the length of Prisoner of Azkaban, and that was already too short.

I'm not sure if the new director Mike Newell is going to take a, shall we say, Alfonso Cuaron path (drop everything that isn't important and loads of stuff that is), but let's hope not, because there are a lot of subtle things in GoF that aren't important to THAT story, but will become important later.

Any ideas on what they're going to cut?

The Riddle House chapter may be cut, which is kind of sad, but if they do a lot of explaining later this should be O.K. Or, they could do it as though Harry was having a dream, but that might be a bit too TTT-esque.

I'm guessing that a lot of the Dursley stuff will be cut, along with the Burrow stuff, and probably a lot of the Quidditch Cup. I've heard rumors that the first ten chapters are completely cut (:eek: ) but let's just hope that's not true.

S.P.E.W. might not be mentioned (or it will be briefly), but Winky might not go to work in the kitchens. They have to include Dobby working at Hogwarts, because that's how he can get to Harry to give him the socks, and how Moody knew about Harry and Dobby's friendship, so Dobby could give Harry the gillyweed.

We're probably not going to see a lot of the Potions classes (or any classes, for that matter) and perhaps not Rita Skeeter.

I'd continue, but I'm starting to feel terrified that this is going to be a bunch of cut-up scenes loosely bound together with the pretense of being based on J.K.'s book. :eek:

*ahem* Right, anway, if you have any news or thoughts or ANYTHING about this movie, post it here.

[ChianaWeasley]

I agree that the riddle house scene will most likely be cut. They will probably just show Harry waking up from a nightmare with his scar burning.

But, for ages I've heard that the film will be over 3 hours long, and will be a 2 DVD when it comes out to buy. Which is what I'm hoping for, since;

a). it will be true to the plot

b). it's the last time we see the usual actor/esses playing the roles

[Princess Aurora]

I think we're really just going to have to brace ourselves for this one, because there will be A LOT of stuff cut out. There's just no way around it.

I honestly won't cry if they cut out most or all of the Quidditch Cup. *ducks* I usually skip that part when I re-read anyway. :p I know they'd have to find another way to do the Dark Mark and everything, but who knows...

And I doubt they'd have much or any of the house elf storyline... which, again, I won't cry about. ;) And there are other ways to fill in plot holes such as the gillyweed without Dobby.

Honestly, with the Triwizard Tournament and the return of Voldemort, there is going to be more than enough plot to deal with in this film, so they will be cutting out a lot, but I don't think it will be too terrible. But I've never been a raging purist, so what do I know? ;)

I do think it should be closer to 3 hours though.

[lizz]

I´ve read somewhere the Dursleys are cut completly. Pity. I´d love to see Arthurs destroying their living room. I do hope there will be at least a few references to the joke shop plans.

I think there will be lots and lots of cuts, otherwise there had to be two films.
JK will watch over the most important stuff, but dont even hope everthing will get in. So that might give us clues what becomes important in the future ;) But until then we will hopefully have book 6 to analyse :)

I cant imagine they keep the Quidditch cup and all three tasks.
Most important to keep is IMHO the third task and voldemorts return. As long as that works as a film I´ll be ok with it.

Are you sure they wont keep the actors? I do hope thats not true :mad:

[Bellatrix_Lestrange]

Originally posted by lizz
I´ve read somewhere the Dursleys are cut completly. Pity. I´d love to see Arthurs destroying their living room. I do hope there will be at least a few references to the joke shop plans.

Frankly, between PS/SS and OotP the Dursleys really don't do anything for the storyline except provide cheap humour.

Are you sure they wont keep the actors? I do hope thats not true :mad:

I heard that WB has altered their initial stance on this, at least as far as Dan, Emma and Rupert are concerned. They've really associated themselves with the roles too closely to be replaced easily.

[Marchwarden]

I imagine they'll cut or heavily shorten the Pensieve scenes.

[ChianaWeasley]

I honestly won't cry if they cut out most or all of the Quidditch Cup. *ducks* I usually skip that part when I re-read anyway.

They'll most likely cut out all of the setting up camp and such, they'll probably just go right into the tournament from Harry getting the letter or something. And when they come out when it's all over, magically it will be night...:p

I´ve read somewhere the Dursleys are cut completly.

But...but what about the TON TONGUE scene?!?!?!?!?!

I would cry if they didn't put that in :( :D

[lizz]

Yes I do hope its not ture. I´d love to se that along with the dursleys reaction to the Weasleys landing in their fireplace and Arthur blowing away their living room. That would be so :cool:

I dont remember where I read that, but I fear it will be true, because its such a big book and this scene is fun, but not really necessary to the plot.

[Tiger Louie]

I just hope that the film works as a film, and that they manage to capture the important points. Apart from the trial of Moody jnr, and maybe Karkaroff's testimony, they don't need any of the rest of the Pensieve stuff - I know there's some setting-up story for the Lestranges, but they could feed that in with a Harry-Dumbledore convo in OotP when they film that.

I hope they put in plenty of the humour (including Weasleys Wizarding Wheezes), from the books and in keeping with the books.

If they did ditch all the Quidditch, we should at least get Harry racing around on his broomstick against the dragon. Hope they do the dragons as well as they did Buckbeak! And I hope they don't miss out the Blast-Ended Skrewts :D

They'll need to include Moody's demonstration of the 3 Unforgivable Curses :eek:

Hope they manage to work Pigwidgeon in there :p

[ChianaWeasley]

I'm not really worried about the dragons, I know they'll do a fantstic job. LOL, they have serious expectations they have to hold up to. We fans are peticular ;)

The Unforgivable Curses scene is going to be soo sad.
I always hate reading about Neville after he was cursed by Moody...

[Athelas]

Reading the info on TLC and the like, there will be NO Dursleys in GOF at all, but they will at least be filming some Quidditch stuff because they are making the special tent & the furniture in it.

[Colli]

i won't cry if GoF goes sansDursley

honestly.. the movies could stand to be started out a fresh way

Harry at Dursleys
Harry leaves Dursleys
Harry goes to school, usually encountering mischief or mortal peril on the way

and still remain true to the books.

And they can cut the World Cup, too.. I always skip it when I read

[ChianaWeasley]

Am I the only one who enjoys reading the part of GoF with the World Cup in it??? :LOL:

[Peregrinning Took]

Originally posted by ChianaWeasley
Am I the only one who enjoys reading the part of GoF with the World Cup in it??? :LOL:

No! I love that part!

My favorite parts of Book 4:
1. Mr. Weasley blasting apart the Dursley's fireplace
2. The Quidditch World Cup
3. The Yule Ball
4. The Egg and the Eye (FAVORITE chapter of this book :))
5. The 2nd task
6. When Barty Crouch Jr. confesses

I hope that all of these make it in, but we're probably going to get a shortened Crouch Jr. confession :(

[Fleurdelacour]

I love the Quidditch World Cup too! Harry and Ron act like typical teenage boys, we have leprechauns AND Ireland wins the Quidditch World Cup - they can't cut that out now... They cut it out the game *grumbles*

But they can cut what they want, just as long as they DO NOT cut out the Yule Ball and Ron and Hermione's arguement - That is a time when I would blubber like Cho... Or just grumble and throw popcorn at the screen then complain about it on the way home, then come on here and moan and moan... :p

I hope they do the maze properly... I've always imagined it as dark and really rushed tense anticpation not knowing what's around the corner...

[Flockman G5]

Here's what's going to happen:

Step 1: The book is cut up into a 2 hour flick.

Step 2: The movie sucks.

I'm so optimistic ;\

Really though, this movie won't be good. Unless of course they change their minds and make it 4hrs instead of 2. Why 2hrs anyway? Why not 3, at least?

wtf, anyone?

[Xyla]

I don't know, I mean by now it must be obvious that three hour movies ARE marketable! But I don't think I'll ever understand some of the decisions they make
(WHY NOT EXPLAIN WHO MWPP WERE??? WHYYYYYY??????) *ahem*

[Fleurdelacour]

wtf indeed Flockman... I'm trying not to think about the dreadful 2 hours allocated for GoF... It's inconvicable as to how they're going to actually do it... They barely had enough time for PoA and cut out my favourite bits (ie Remus's backstory and the story of the Marauders).

If you were a film director... Wouldnt you rather make a decent film that was a good few hours long with a break (they have breaks in the West End!) rather then a scatty film which is unfaithful to the book, thus making very angry fan girls/boys...

The movie moguls would say the little kiddies wouldnt want to sit still for that long - yeah right... My little brothers are at their most quiet when watching the LotR films... And kids that young shouldnt be watching films about hormonal teenagers, death and impending doom! The Lion King is disturbing enough! :p

[LuthienElentari]

I actually I'm not as worried for this film as I was for the last one. Only because this is my least favorite book out of the series. Although I will pelt popcorn at the screen if they cut out the Yule Ball sequences. I wouldn't mind if spew was cut out though.


FluerD I agree with you on the kiddie comment. When I went to see Prisoner of Azkban for my third time there was a little boy who was running down the isle and climbing over seats. It was extremely irritating and it was during the Shrieking Shack scene one of my favorite scenes in that film! The parent should have taken him to Garfield or some other stupid kid movie. Harry Potter was not written for kids! Finding Nemo was written for kids! and as the books continue the books become more and more anti-kid friendly. All these hormonal teens running around the kids are probably sitting in thier seats wondering "What the-" they can't even connect with the characters! or understand the plotline! unless they are mature. *ERRR* this subject makes me angry.

[Pilgrim Grey]

OK, here's how I see it all happening:

Brief quidditch scenes in the opening credits, film proper starts with Harry and the Weasley's in their tents talking about the match/going to bed. Then Harry's woken up, the Dark Mark appears, some portentious comment is made about it being Voldy's sign.

Cut to the Feast - Dumbledore introduces Moody, announces the Tournament. That night, Harry has the Riddle dream (trunkated so it's just Voldy and Wormtongue talking).

DADA - the Three Unforgivable Curses are demonstrated, Harry breaks the Imperious curse.

The other schools arrive, and the GOF is brought out (maybe have the twins try to break the line for comic relief)

Sirius is re-introduced, says that Harry shouldn't even think about the Tournament, because there've ben signs of Voldy gaining more power.

Harry's name is pulled out of the GOF.

Magical Creatures lessons with Hagrid - Hagrid shows Harry the Dragons.

First Task - Harry and the Dragon.

The Egg and the Eye - Karkaroff and Snape are out walking the castle, Harry hears them and goes to investigate, sees Crouch on the Marauder's Map in Snape's office, Moody saves him.

Harry's getting worried about the second task - punctuated by Hermione and Ron arguing about Krum. Just before the second task, Dobby appears and gives Harry some Gillyweed, saying that he overheard some teachers talking.

Second Task - the Merpeople

Harry, Ron and Hermione are in Hogsmeade and they see Sirius in dog form - they follow him up to the cave and they talk about Harry being in danger and Voldy becoming more powerful (to keep the tension ramped up).

In Divination, Harry falls asleep and has his vision - goes to Dumbledore's office, looks in the Pensieve, sees Crouch's trial, asks Dumbledore about him, Dumbledore tells him the story of Barty Jnr.

Harry finds out about the third task, and Ron and Hermione help him (still with angst).

The Third Task - Harry and Cedric grab the cup, the graveyard scene (maybe not priori incantatum), Harry gets back.

Moody's reveal, Fudge brings in a Dementor and does the Kiss (and we FINALLY see what's under the hood), Dumbledore goes nuts. Sirius and Snape shake hands - Snape goes out on his mission, and Sirius rounds up the OOTP

Hagrid rounds out movie with his "meet it when it comes" speech, before setting off to find the giants.

Cedric will have to be built up a bit, and Ron and Hermione will obviously be in the background doing their own thing, but that's pretty much how I see the movie happening.

I know I've left a hell of a lot of stuff out of that, but really, in a two hour movie, that's all that there'll be time for IMO.

The problem that this film will have (and OOTP moreso) is that it doesn't really have a main plot that you can cut things around - in POA the whole movie revolved around the hunt for Sirius, for example. So I have a feeling that Steve Kloves is going to invent a main plot - either Voldy's return or the mystery about who put Harry's name into the GOF, so that the film has a focus and doesn't end up meandering like the first two films did, which would be fatal to an adaptation of such a large book.

[Telchar II]

I think for GotF the essential thing is to build up the plot on Harry's life more clearly than JKR does in the book.

Include Voldemort talking to Wormtail, as Pilgrim Grey suggests.

Drop the business about Ron being jealous of Harry for participating in the Tournament. Emphasize instead Ron's realization that someone is trying to kill Harry, and Sirius's concern, and the number of deaths in prior Tournaments.

Make the dragons truly life-threatening. Make the injuries very obvious (Pomfrey patches things up a little too quickly in the book, imho).

Create some sort of more dangerous situation under the lake (I don't think the grindylows or Mermen really threaten Harry).

The third task is easy to make seem really dangerous. Build up the preparation -- they're not teaching Harry spells so he can win; they're teaching them to him so he can survive.

In the book, we get caught up in the will-Harry-win question, and we forget the beginning of the book, and its establishment that Harry's life is in danger. (Or at least I tend to forget that.) Then the Portkey -- and all that comes after it -- comes as a surprise (or it did to me, at least).

You know, they probably chose Mike Newell because he made a very episodic movie -- Four Weddings and a Funeral -- hang together quite well. I wish him luck with this one.

[Pilgrim Grey]

Originally posted by Pilgrim Grey
Wormtongue
:p Whoops, wrong series...

[Elwen]

Just to say that I have heard from a pretty good (disinterested) source that HP IV will be filming in New College Oxford at some point in the second half of August. This is when the college is closed, so it will all happen behind closed doors...

Filming is said to centre on the magnificent cloisters (my favourite spot in Oxford - I am sad that it will now get more attention which might mean it will loose its otherworldly magic...)

New college also has a long stretch of the city wall running through it and it has more little gothic corners than most places I know of.

I look forward to spotting them!

Elwen

[lizz]

they are going to film in the cloisters :swoon: I do hope for a long scene in there. its such a lovely and peaceful spot (well maybe not in the movie :D but in RL :))

[Rapunzel]

Oh, New College is absolutely gorgeous! I've been lucky enough to live in Oxford for the last few years and of all the colleges I know I think New College is my favourite. Its so peaceful and tranquil. And the cloisters are beautiful (it wouldn't surprise me if filming was concentrated there seeing as its one of the only bits of the college that hasn't had later alterations).

Thanks Elwen!

[Elwen]

Rapunzel, you are in Oxford, too? :)

You might want to go over to CoE and check out the meetings/Europe forum. We'll have a COE meet sometime in August :)

As things stand now we are 4 CoEers in oxford (at least in term time) - are you ever at CoE as well? :)


As it happens I was in new College just today, showing a friend around. There is a lot that can be used with a bit of trickery - they turned the bit between hall and city wall into a street in a French city in Quills 9and the passage way under the Hall was a convent :D ).

parts of the city wall would be useful, too, and the garden has a corner (towards Queens, behind the mount) which wouold be PERFECT. - also some parts of the bar, which is more or less gothic, but in that crooked odd way :)

Not all of Hogwart's has to be *15th-16th* century exactly. :D


If I understand my New College contact, though, the Cloisters are the main focus...

But... I have seen filming in Oxford before and they always tend to do bits and pieces wherever they can - e.g. at some point (for The Saint, I think, they did the Oxford parts around the Bod, but then a wall of Hertford served as a backdrop for a scene that was set in Russia!)

let a film crew loose in a totally locked New College and I'd like to see how they only use the Cloisters, even if they have come there explicitly to use that particular bit.... the whole place has an air of Hogwart's about it (would you believe it? Its hall has FOUR tables - unlike other halls in oxford, including Christ CHurch Hall which is the model for the film, which have three... why didn't they pick NC hall, seeing that it is so much prettier, and actually gothic? :confused: )


New college website (http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/visitors/index.html)




Elwen

[Rapunzel]

Aww, thanks Elwen! :hug: I am indeed in Oxford for most of the time, though unfortunately away at the moment and tied to the evil summer temping job of doom. *boo* *hiss* I am also at CoE sometimes, so I'll take a look at the meetings forum. :)

Right, back on topic perhaps...;) (though I must say that if anyone has the chance to go to Oxford they must because its fabulous in every way :))

I'm personally quite looking forward to GoF just to see what they include and what they leave out - I think it'll give us a good indication of what's really important (and therefore of future books, I hope). I'm not really talking about major plot lines - I don't really care if they leave out the Dursleys and the Quidditch World Cup - but I'll be interested to see if they leave any little details in, that don't seem altogether necessary to the story.

[Peregrinning Took]

The Leaky Cauldron managed to get a hold of some of the script pages! :cool: They deal with the First Task. I was getting quite excited while reading them....This gives me a lot more hope. Even though this is certainly going to be a lot shorter than the book, it could still be a good movie.

I did like the 3rd movie, because I can separate the idea of the HP books and the HP movies, and I know they're going to be different.

Something I noticed in the script pages - - Bagman seems to be missing. Was he even cast? I can't remember...

[Elwen]

Just to say that filming has started in new College, Oxford.

Don't expect any news to come out. All peoploe with access to the college (including my source) had to acknowledge the confidentiality agreement that the college signed. I expect my source to dry up.

All vehicles are parked inside the locked college so we won't get to see anything.

ho hum.

Perhaps they do some stuff in Christ Church - they can't shut THAT one down.

Elwen

[ElfTBD]

Well, I was looking at the pics over at TLC today, and looks like the Yule Ball is definitely in. But there's one thing I want to know: what's with the Star Wars-esgue hair on the boys???

[Aurinos]

The teaser trailer is now up at the official movie website! Not a whole lot is revealed, but what is looks very good.:D

[Elwen]

I actually loved the shots that show the time passing over the four films.... :)

And generally, it isn't a bad trailer at all. I only saw a very small version, and I think the CGI looks a bit dodgy, but (assuming that they'll fix that) it looks pretty good.

I LOVE the maze! Who would have imagined it THAT huge!!!

[lizz]

I liked the teaser. Especially the growing up of the kids :clap:

Looks better than I thought so far :)

[Monkfish]

Emma Watson auditioning for the new "Bewitched" movie:
http://hermione-heaven.net/gof6.jpg

[Colli]

lol, that's funny. The Bewitched theme song is my ringtone :-D

[ChianaWeasley]

His hair is too bloody long!!!!

[Peregrinning Took]

The maze is INCREDIBLE. Things like that, just bigger than what I could ever have imagined (like the number of people at the charge of the Rohirrim in ROTK), always bring a little tear to my eye.

This movie may not be exactly like the book, but I can live with that. No one can ever replicate the books.

[Monkfish]

Any Ideas?
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/new15.jpg

This scene looks intents (geddit?)
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/location01.jpg

Now where has Harry gone on buckbeak?....
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/new24.jpg

Happy Hermione
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/tournage06.jpg

Krumbs....
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/009.jpg

Prefects Bathroom!!!
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/010.jpg

Neville practicing his moves...
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/008.jpg

Cedric
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/006.jpg

Hiding Hermione
http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/new17.jpg

[Elwen]

http://jengarner.free.fr/drfr/coupefeu/new15.jpg


THIS one I can explain... <sigh>

We are in Oxford. This is a view from just off the Broad Street past the Sheldonian Theatre (round building on the left) towards the Bodleian, the Divinity School, to be exact.

They filmed the court room scenes inside the Divinity school, which has something that looks like a courtroom set-up - but don't expect this to look like a room in a deep cellar. It has huge gothic windows.... In fact, the same room was (still is?) used as the school's hospital - at least in the first film. But they filmed with their backs to the side of the room they'll be using this time....

I have this from a pretty good source, so I am quite confident that it is accurate.
What we are seeing here is just their infrastructure, and I don't think they'll use the outside of the building....

[Fleurdelacour]

Wow Cedric looks really familular... Thanks for posting those.

[Miriela]

Thanks for those!!!

Harry in the Prefects bathroom looks like he's carrying a football, not an egg. It looks like he's teaching his friends (not pictured) how to play the American Muggle game of football. :rotfl:

[Princess Aurora]

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/moviestills/h/harrypottergof/20.jpg

This picture was posted on HPANA a couple days ago, of the trio sitting up in the Gryffindor common room.

[Fleurdelacour]

*squeals* Ron's staring right at Hermione!

[Colli]

I bet they're waiting to talk to Sirius.. that happens in GoF, right?

[Elwen]

I think it does... I saw an interview with Gary Oldman somewhere - it was about something different, but he mentioned that he wasn't really in this HP film, because his only appearance was as a head in the fire, but he'd be in the next one properly (yeah, we didn't expect THAT, did we?).

Anyway, from this we'd have to expect that some conversation with Sirius is in the film or was at least shot (I have become so wary since following PJ's filmmaking for a bit). Anyway - the still should be from that scene. :)

[Princess Aurora]

Yep, I'm fairly certain it must be from that scene - they do indeed talk to Sirius in the flames in GoF.

I'm so looking forward to this movie! :D

[Starleaf]

I just watched the trailer. I had no idea this was coming out in November already!! Yay!! Harry certainly is growing up well......look at how square his jaw is becoming. There is SO much going on in this book that it will be interesting to see how long it's going to be. What to put in and what gets left out.

Can't wait for November.

[Pilgrim Grey]

Anyway, from this we'd have to expect that some conversation with Sirius is in the film or was at least shot (I have become so wary since following PJ's filmmaking for a bit). Anyway - the still should be from that scene. :)
Just to rush to PJ's defense (;)), normally a filmmaker knows alot more precisely what's going to make it into a film. LOTR was constantly being rewritten, with storylines being cut out or altered all the time. Normally the film editing process is much more a case of just trimming the fat.

[Elwen]

Don't get me wrong, I like PJ's ways with trailers.... and publicity stills ...:D
(remember the dying Arwen who turned up in trailers from before FotR onwards, only to just make it into a vision in RotK: :D

Keeps the fans occupied ;)

But I am sure you are right - the HP films are made in a different way - especially because every installment has a different director, and the turn-over is quite fast!

[Elwen]

Reason to worry?

There is a new-ish picture from GOF with harry in front of the Riddle tombstone....

Check it out here (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_july2005/ewscan1.jpg) (the picture comes from an entertainment weekly article: other scans here (http://www.mugglenet.com/newsfusion/fullnews.php?id=975)).

The tombstone seems to be wrong in various ways - apparently Warner has now promised to sort it out via Computer...
- but seeing that harry in the picture actually seems to comment on the erroneous line on the stone all this seems a little worrying....

[Pilgrim Grey]

Yeah, I saw this too, but I think it's just a minor detail that got mixed up. They definitely meant for it to be Riddle's father (look at the dates, although they're still wrong), so they were probably just trying to be too clever and outsmarted themselves.

[Princess Aurora]

Yep, apparently there was a barrage of fan complaints pointing out the mistake, and WB has corrected it. Gotta love the fans. :D

In other news, it has been announced that GoF will receive a PG-13 rating in the US. This is an interesting change from the last three films, but I can't say I'm surprised. Also, I read in an interview with Mike Newell (I believe it was in the Entertainment Weekly article) that the run time will be about 2 1/2 hours.

[Irys]

I'm pleased at the PG-13 rating. The cemetary showdown is enough to do it, and I'd hate to see the scene tamed in any way. It should be chiling and shocking, sad and scary. And it should be enough warning for parents that it's not for all children.

What exactly is Harry holding in the Entertainment Weekly cover picture?

[Elwen]

The one with the tombstone? I would have thought that he is holding his wand. But I am not sure when in the scene this is supposed to take place. Is this before V gets resurrected, or when they free Harry just before the duel?


In any case, I am happy about the rating (although I am sure many younger fans may be very unhappy) because the end of book IV came as a real shock to me. In a good way, mind, but still - I could not believe just what JKR was willing to let people do to Harry. That was the point when it became clear just how much the books had 'grown up' with their protagonist, and with the readership.

Good to see that the films are doing the same.

[Elwen]

I had to share this somewhere....

someone at Mugglenet has the following signature:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/DanielJackson/harrygob.jpg

Indeed... :D

[Mormegil]

New Footage I believe (Quicktime Movie Right Click to download)

http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/extra/2005/extra/potter0812_dl.mov

[Irys]

No, Elwen, I meant the cover picture, with the EW words and all. I can't open the page now, so it might be gone. It looked like he was holding a giant cigarette, and I couldn't figure out what it was meant to be.

Actually, I can't get to Mugglenet at all right now, so that might be my problem. Once they are back up, I'll be able to link to the pic.

[Wings]

That's his wand! :LOL: It looks bad, though; I think it moved when the photo was taken.
Yeah, they totally messed up that tombstone! I'm so angry! Can't they read???

[Irys]

I figured it was supposed to be his wand, but they screwed it up somehow... maybe a prop that they used and were going to put in the wand digitally?

[Elwen]

remeber the picture I reported and linked a few weeks ago (with Harry in front of the tombstone which showed that V's father's name was 'Tom maravolo Riddle' (which of course it wasn't)?


...
Check it out here (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_july2005/ewscan1.jpg) (the picture comes from an entertainment weekly article: other scans here (http://www.mugglenet.com/newsfusion/fullnews.php?id=975)).




Well, it seems they did indeed fix it....

http://i.mugglenet.com//fixedgravestone.gif

[Pilgrim Grey]

LOL, they still got it wrong. The Riddles were killed after the end of the war, so it shouldn't be 1943.

AICN have a link to the bouncing ferret clip online, and I gotta say it's really good. A bit's been change:it's set outside under a tree now, and Malfoy says something like "my father will hear about this", to which Moody replies, interestingly enough, "I know things about your father that would make your greasy hair curl, Malfoy!" or something like that. Guess that means that we won't get to hear that line directed at Hermione (and that Bagman's been cut, which is completely understandable and expected), which probably makes sense seeing as how she doesn't have bushy hair in the films. Wonder how Hermione and Rita will go toe to toe instead

[Elwen]

You have to look at the marvellous setting of that clip, tree gothic arches and all .... New College Cloisters in Oxford - one of my all time favourite places. :swoon: :)
I used to sit there a lot: you can forget what time or world you are in....

I think the clip is great - Moody is just spot-on, I think. But the special effects look a bit dodgy...

[Pilgrim Grey]

Well, that would gel with what the director was saying about WB not giving him enough money. Although a review on AICN says that for the most part, the effects are spectacular, with the dragons looking better (and more realistic) than any others seen before on screen (not too hard, admitedly). The review's worth checking out, but it's fairly spoiler-ful, especially about what's been cut. There's nothing truly suprising that's been cut, but in this film especially, it's going to be hard to watch without all the fun subplots and side characters.

[SiriuslyCrazy]

You can listen to the entire GoF CD online (legally) here:

http://music.aol.com/artist/main.adp?tab=album&albumid=802181

It sounds good, even though it's Patrick Doyle composing instead of John Williams... not too sure about the last few songs by Radiohead though...

[Pilgrim Grey]

By Radiohead??? :eek:

Are they going to be in the movie or are they just there to sell the album? And are they new songs?

[Elwen]

Oddly, for me a film rarely gets spoiled by spoilers in the classical sense, but it gets totally spoiled if I hear the soundtrack in advance....

So I won't listen to this.

Just one question: are they using the musical themes creatyed by Williams for Harry Potter?

[SiriuslyCrazy]

The "Harry Potter" theme is cleverly hidden in the opening of it, but other than that no. Don't get me wrong, though, the score is absolutely beautiful,

and I would imagine that radiohead would be in the credits?... and I *think* that they are songs that were created just for the movie... lol just look at the title for the third to last song...


Oh and Elwen, if you don't like spoilers then don't look at 13 clips of the movie that are online as well (legally of course). But for anyone else who wishes to see them: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/3 go there, and scroll down until you see them. This looks like it's going to be a really good movie!!

[Elwen]

Thanks, Siriusly,

I have seen one clip but I will steer clear of the others.... but I have seen all stills I could get my hands on (an old habit acquired in the heyday of the LotR 'New Picture Thread' on COE).

The film really does look great. :)

[Pilgrim Grey]

I've only listened to the track Do The Hypogriff and it sounds to me like that might be from at the Yule Ball? Maybe just as a background track by The Wyrd Sisters.

[Elwen]

LOL.... what a title :D

[Lanen]

Hiya folks!

Just dropped by and, as I have been gone so long, had a look at this whole thread (well, nearly) - which has left me with a question for the group, because I am so out of it.

Is it true that Ron, Harry and Hermione are going to be portrayed by different actors for the last 3 films? I had heard this rumour, but I thought it had been scotched earlier this year. Any thoughts?

I can't run streaming video or audio here at work, but am looking forward to getting home and checking out some of the other trailers! Just saw the latest one this weekend - oooh, that Daniel Radcliffe is getting dead cute. I reckon he'll be a heartbreaker when he grows up.

Lanen

[Elwen]

Well, Lanen, the kids are signed up for Order of the Phoenix and will certainly be doing that.

At the moment they are not saying more, and as always the company has been cautious not to ask them to commit to anything further (would be rather hard for a 15 year old!!).

Looks quite promising, though. If books and films continue as planned (last one 2010 or thereabouts) they would all be about 20 and probably not too old to play at being 17/18, so they could make it, if they don't get fed up with it....

[Lanen]

Thanks, Elwen. Funny how you get attached to faces, isn't it? I mean, for years I thought Basil Rathbone was the only possible Sherlock Holmes, and then along came Jeremy Brett...

I am SO looking forward to this movie! Though I have to say, Mad-Eye Moody's eye is a bit - OTT. Never mind. Can't be perfect. I LOVED Emma Watson in that dress at the London premier! :D

Drat this work stuff...

Lanen

[Elwen]

... Elwen wanders off to check out pictures of the premiere....

I think Emma does the glamour thing really well, and I think she is just 15? :eek:

Somehow it seems that the young men can be a little more relaxed, but I have to say I am truly impressed with Dan Radcliffe: he seems to be growing up so sensibly....

Check out the transcript of his interview with Jonathon Ross (does a well known UK show on cultural stuff, usually with 'cheeky' fun interviews...) - DR is really doing rather well, I have to say. I couldn't have been so relaxed in this situation when I was 16 :eek:

http://www.mugglenet.com/movies/movie4/interviews/radcliffe_fnwjr.shtml

[SiriuslyCrazy]

ooo, that was very enjoyable to read! thanks Elwen

[Lanen]

Elwen, I actually saw the show - by pure chance, I don't normally watch Jonathan Ross (after my bedtime!) - Dan did really well for a 16-year-old! I'd have been a useless wreck at that age - good on the kid.

Now I'm home, i'm gonna go check out some of those trailers!

:D

[magikalstars]

i agree with all of you im sure there are going to be a lot of parts cut out. Do you guys think that they will cut out the part where cedric dies? my sister and i cant figure it out....

[SiriuslyCrazy]

er... that part is definately in, it's been mentioned in many interviews and is a fairly important plot point in the book, so yeah, it'll be in the movie.

[Elwen]

welcome to the muggleinformer, magikalstars!

Yes, that part is definitely in, there are even pictures of the aftermath, and, as has already been said, they have already talked about it in interviews....


It is going to be a pretty emotional ride, that film....

[River Daughter]

I think the top three will be able to pull off their characters, because they won't be too far off their real ages; but Malfoy (Tom) might be a problem, since he is already 18 right now. We'll see, I guess...he has said that he'll keep doing Malfoy as long as they keep asking him back.

[Elwen]

Wow... I never knew he was that much older than the others! Ah well... he'll be about 25 when they finish it off - who knowws what happens to Draco... it won't perhaps matter much if he looks a little on the older side. After all, book Draco grows up shockingly fast (or at least sees himself forced to try) in book 6..

[River Daughter]

Yeah, if you notice, he's starting to get that craggy look that men get as they get older, less feminine, more testosterone...

I tell you, I still think the funniest thing I've ever seen is the Comic Relief Red Nose spoof with Dawn French (I guess as Harry Potter), Jennifer Saunders, Miranda Richardson as Hermione, and Jeremy Irons as Snape. They've got a stuffed fox puppet playing the part of Dobby! Hilarious!http://www.britbitsandclips.com/AR_HP.htm
This site has all kinds of Alan Rickman downloads, and I particularly love the I'm too Sexy Snape video and the little Britney Spears' Toxic video. Very fun!

I'm really looking forward to seeing GoF this weekend--I think it's going to be the best yet--to tell the truth, I wasn't too thrilled with the last one.

[Guinevere]

Hello! Ellie, its Holly! and Elwen, its aragorn26!! I've finally joined this site!! and its pretty cool! I saw the Harry Potter moive last night, it was very good! But I got a bit mad, they cut out alot of the stuff, like the Quidditch World Cup, and most of the Death Mark scene and some more. But they had to stay at a time length, so I'm happy the way it is! When Voldemort comes back, that is really scary!!! And the Death Eater masks are soo cool!!!!!!!!!! And the maze, for the third task, it was huge!!!!!!!!!!! I pictured it alot smaller! Can't wait for the 5th one to come out!!! :D

[Miriela]

Hi Holly! I haven't gotten to see the movie yet as I was out of town all weekend. :( Please remember to use the spoiler code as there are others who haven't seen it yet!! :)

To use a spoiler type text [ /S] without the spaces and you come up with [S]this!

[SiriuslyCrazy]

I have to say my greatest surprise AND enjoyment of the film was

the development and greater inclusion of Neville

THE MOVIE WAS AMAZING!! So worth it!
ALthough much was cut out, and those who haven't read the book will be completely lost, it had the FEEL of the book, which none of the other films managed to do, and was simply amazing to wittness.

[Guinevere]

Hello! Sorry bout that. :) Well, when you do see the moive, hope you like it!! Again, I'm sorry!

[Starleaf]

I just came back from watching the movie. It was truly and totally excellent!! There was so much more humor in this movie than any of the others. And, oh! isn't our Harry becoming so very pretty?? Many scenes he reminded me of Elijah Wood as Frodo.

And the Weasly twins, Fred and George also so pretty. They would have made a perfect Elladan and Elrohir in LOTR. If Peter Jackson saw fit to have the sons of Elrond show up at all..........

Lots was cut out, but I thought it came together well for what we did see. A thoroughly enjoyable movie. I didn't remember Voldemort killing Cedric - I thought Cedric was already dead when they landed at the Riddle estate. And Cedric's father screaming his grief at the end........so very sad.....wadded up napkins got used for that scene.

[The_Doctor_]

Anyone know where I can grab a clip of when drumstrang walk(/dance) into the Great hall?

[The_Doctor_]

Please email me at crispybobgizmo@hotmail.co.uk if you have any ideas where I could get that clip of Drumstrangs Entrance please!!!

[Elwen]

The_Doctor - I have no good evicidence that this clip exists legal;ly on the web, but if it does you should be able to find it at mugglenet, I should guess....


welcome to the muggleinformer, BTW... :) :welcome:

[Re-reader]

Saw GOF for the second time this weekend. Overall I still liked it, but a few parts grated on me and I have a few nitpicks:

Neville: I like the way he was included more, and he was sympathetically portrayed.

Herminone: I think Emma Watson "over-acted" a lot in this film, although I generally like her.

The actor who played Barty Crouch Jr. also over-acted to the point where his performance can only be called "scenery chewing."

The performance of Mad-Eye, however, did not strike me as over-acting but as right-on. He had me cracking up again and again.

Dragon scene: too long and too much of a departure from the book.

Hagrid and Olympe: cute, but what was going on when she ate something out Hagrid's beard??? That was rather strange.

I thought Fleur should have had longer hair that fluttered around more. The actress who played her was pretty, but seems like they could have had her wear a long silvery blond wig and let her hair "flow" more, as per the book.

I like the way Ginny is shaping up to be a smart-aleck, like Fred and George.

Fred and George, by the way, are right on. Absolutely perfect, just like the book. I love to watch them.

I would have liked to have seen Rita Skeeter as a beetle but I did not miss SPEW or Ludo Bagman. I thought it was rather strange that every single tent was burned down at the World Cup.

I thought the new Dumbledore was too "agitated" and not calm enough.